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| Pseudonymphadora | Have you ever thought... just maybe... | 0 | Apr 6 2011, 11:15 AM EDT by Pseudonymphadora | ||
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Thread started: Apr 6 2011, 11:15 AM EDT
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I find it interesting that if you look at the lyrics of Taylor Swift’s song “You Belong With Me” without seeing the video, you might notice that the words don’t come across as gendered as we may expect. At first glance we think this song is about a passive girl singing to a boy, but it never mentions anywhere the gender of the singer. In other words, it is also possible to read the lyrics as sung by a boy to a girl (who’s attracted to another girl). Take a look!
You're on the phone with your girlfriend, she's upset She's going off about something that you said 'Cause she doesn't get your humor like I do I'm in the room, it's a typical Tuesday night I'm listening to the kind of music she doesn't like And she'll never know your story like I do But she wears short skirts, I wear T-shirts She's Cheer Captain and I'm on the bleachers Dreaming about the day when you wake up and find That what you're looking for has been here the whole time If you could see that I'm the one who understands you Been here all along, so why can't you see? You, you belong with me, you belong with me Walking the streets with you and your worn-out jeans I can't help thinking this is how it ought to be Laughing on a park bench, thinking to myself Hey, isn't this easy? And you've got a smile that could light up this whole town I haven't seen it in a while since she brought you down You say you're fine, I know you better than that Hey, what ya doing with a girl like that? Subversive? Yes. But quite a twist. |
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| aquaprinciple | agreed. | 1 | Mar 23 2011, 5:31 AM EDT by Logan16 | ||
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Thread started: Feb 16 2011, 4:20 AM EST
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Hello! I agree with Starbucks, i think taylor swift promotes 'slut shaming' in a very damaging manner. There is an image i came across which juxtaposes taylor swifts two characters in the video for you belong to me. The caption underneath the video reads
'the madonna/***** complex: the deep dicotomy in mordern culture used to oppress women via a sexual double standard, establishing rigid categories for female sexual behaviour while permitting male sexual behavior to range from promiscuity to abstinence without similair disparaging social judgement' so i think what starbuck said about 'I mean, if you look at it from a different point of view, "You Belong With Me" is about how Taylor insults some poor girl of being superficial and then stealing her boyfriend. Imagine being on the other side of that, and what message it sends girls about what is acceptable in regard to relationships. It's OK to steal other girls' boyfriends if you think they'll be so much better off with you? Not a very nice message for sisterhood.' is absolutely true! its okay to steal the other girls boyfriend, because the other girl is promiscious and overtly aware of her sexuality (in the manner she dresses and behaves in the video) therefore is crass, has no feelings and it is perfectly all right to steal her boyfriend. Notice NO ONE questions the 'boys' role in this, he is just allowed to pick and choose whoever he feels like in the moment, and obviously after having fun with the 'naughty' girl that dresses seductively (short skirts high heels?) he will choose the good, boring, virginal (she was wearing a white dress..symbolic of her purity i suppose) girl to eventually fall in love with and respect. It is disturbing the choices that are given to boys and girls and even more so because of swifts popularity with adults etc and her being labelled as the 'good girl' repeatedly |
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| rj2yk | haha. disagree with some parts. | 1 | Mar 13 2011, 9:51 AM EDT by magekin | ||
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Thread started: Mar 11 2011, 9:29 AM EST
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okay. though i am also a big fan of taylor swift (that's why i'm contributing! :) ), i somehow disagree with some of the points u mentioned.
though it may be true that her songs usually end, with happy fairytale endings, i feel that it is also important for us to look at the process. by which i mean the plot of the stories in her songs. in "You Belong With Me", i note that that the female character is confident and firm rather than lacking confidence. "she doesn't get your humour like i do" and "she'll never know your story like i do" shows the female character as confident of her greater knowledge of the man in her competition with her love rival even though she is Miss Popularity. and throughout her songs, her belief that he should belong with her never wavered with her claims "whatcha doing with a girl like that" and "think i know where you belong, think i know it's with me". female-female competition over man is also noted in her songs like 'Should've Said No" and "Speak Now". but i definitely agree that gender inequality is really pervasive, especially in her music videos. but i guess that's how producers feel music videos should be like to be effective - using stereotypes that people can relate and understand immediately, and exaggerated stereotypes for the impact. |
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